they had a big old barbecue. al was very into the barbecuing in his backyard. >> how is al doing? >> he's having a good time. >> has he gotten over it? >> i think he's gotten over it. he's become a fine wine connoisseur. we had some very nice red wine over there. >> i bet he analyzes the chemical breakdown. >> he talks a s a little about wine. >> how's meacham doing? >> meacham, you know, he's got this great book out. he's on the road. >> number one. >> number one. he's bringing al gore's book out in february. >> did y'all wear a lot of cardigans? >> he's become like a little country squire. he has. i gave him some slippers. he's got some really nice slippers. >> what i learned -- and i think there's some harold ford jr. in jon meacham because when jon decided he was going to move to nashville, you know what his first question was to julia? >> i'm going to quit talking to you. >> no filter. >> do you have a church home is the first thing. >> amen, brother. what church does the lord move in? because i'm going to be in that church when harold ford jr. kneels in the pew every sunday.